Tuesday, June 30, 2009

Mr. John Hill Seems To Be A Dangerous Fool

The Most Likely Truth About 7-7 and 9-11 and Their Conspiracy Theories

By Jean-Pierre Ady Fenyo, Philosopher


First of all, allow me to qualify what I am about to state; I know enough about how government agencies, agents and officials operate to be able to state, without the slightest doubt, that almost all conspiracy theories about everything from The Kennedy Assassination to 9-11 are full of nonsense, illogical conclusions and even politically or ‘religiously’ motivated deliberate lies! Secondly; those who totally dismiss every detail of a conspiracy theory or who think all conspiracy theories are nonsense only help fuel interest and belief in otherwise absurd conspiracy theories, because the fact is that some conspiracies do exist, have happened in the past, and are likely to happen again, and most conspiracy theories contain certain elements of truth! But this article is not about conspiracy theories in general, but about conspiracy theories concerning the horrors of 9-11 and 7-7.

As you may have heard, a man by the name of John Hill is now facing serious criminal charges for having produced a YouTube video (and DVDs) that suggest that the events of 7-7 were not the sick, unjustifiable, cowardly and murderous acts of relatively young, brainwashed British Muslims, whose brainwashers have a sick, extreme and distorted interpretation of Islam, but that it was some sinister plot on the part of elements within the British government which conspired to launch a so-called ‘false flag’ operation, involving the murder of many innocent people, simply as a means to justify acts of war and elimination of civil liberties! Mr. John Hill is also convinced he alone is The Messiah (look, I’m a Jew, and I know a thing or two about any real Messiah would-be), even as he has a non-Jewish religious ideology and shows none of the wisdom and compassion for humanity that one might expect of a true Jewish King. But, of course, if I were to simply suggest that John Hill's wacky self-delusion about being The Messiah is reason enough to dismiss his extreme (and, as far as I am concerned, impossible and ludicrous) conspiracy theory then I too would only be doing more harm than good.

Generally speaking Mr.John Hill alleges, without providing any truly credible evidence, that the four men blamed for the bombings were in fact fall guys in a government plot to win support for the war on terror; they were tricked into traveling to London with rucksacks on that day. Furthermore, Hill alleges that the CCTV footage that shows the four men arriving in London was simply used to incriminate them, and that they were not on the trains that blew up, but were in fact murdered by police at Canary Wharf, after government agents set off pre-planted explosives to frame them.

Here are some simple reasons why John Hill’s conspiracy theory does not make sense:

1. The cost of keeping even a few people ‘quiet’ and willing to participate in what would be the actual murder of dozens of innocent people is very, very high, and every government agent knows that their own government has other agents and agencies watching them (if not constantly then randomly) and even able to test their loyalty and trustworthiness! In other words; the idea that a sinister element within the UK government would conspire to commit mass murder makes absolutely no sense when it would require being able to ‘trust’ enough officers and agents to go along with such an evil crime; a crime whose evidence, had it been committed, would not only be very, very expensive to hide, but whose evidence being released would cause extreme instability in all branches of government and would be too high a risk for any so-called ‘possible’ benefit! Of course, if you can find enough agents and officers who share an extreme ideological agenda then it would be possible, but in a relatively democratic and liberal society that is highly unlikely. So, just considering the cost of keeping people quiet and the extreme difficulty in organizing such a massive crime it is very, very unlikely to be the case!
2. The idea that there are no, or too few, British Muslims willing and able to have done such horrible crimes goes totally against all the existing evidence! Yes, most British Muslims are not willing to be brainwashed and are not willing to support the sick agenda of violent extremists, but there are a significant minority of mostly younger British Muslims, perhaps around 5% to 15% (this rough estimate is based on actual, recent opinion polling of British Muslim youths) who unequivocally state that they see nothing wrong with suicide bombers and suicide bombing as a supposed means to an end, that they agree with such terrorist tactics, and that they would be willing to sacrifice their lives as martyrs in what they misperceive as a so-called ‘legitimate’ defense of Islam and of Muslims! Now, you can also find a minority of youths in other ‘communities’, including those who would call themselves Christian, Jewish, Hindu, etc… who would also have no qualms about going to extremes in order to push their agenda. But the reality is, like it or not, that the vast majority of suicide terrorist attacks in the past 30 years, especially since the Ayatollahs overthrew the Shah of Iran and pursued their extreme agenda throughout the Islamic World, have been done by young brainwashed Muslims who are taught very false interpretations of The Koran and of Islam! For many naïve people, mostly of Christian background, in Europe and America, it is hard to face the truth and realize that such extreme hatred and willingness to violence can really exist! So, the point here is simple: why frame otherwise innocent British Muslim youths, when you can easily find enough of them to, provided they are given the means, actually commit these sick acts of senseless violence and cowardly murder?? The one counter-argument that Mr. Hill might make is this: ‘…well, because the goal was also to defame Islam and Muslims, and not just to create public support for a war agenda….’. That counter-argument, however plausible it may seem, is false! Any relatively intelligent citizen of the UK knows that there are just too many important economic ties with many nations in the Islamic World, and that risking the loss of their trust and cooperation is absolutely not worth any other agenda!! Also, the social disruptions and their impact on the British economy that would be caused by such a conspiracy being revealed as true, were it true at all, would have disastrous consequences for everyone in the UK! Take this and the previous point and you already can see just how insensible and practically impossible it would be to launch such a conspiracy!
3. Most of the foremost British government agents, security specialists, officials and officers are highly intelligent people…which has nothing to do with whether or not they can make silly (and sometimes costly) mistakes (goes without saying; all highly intelligent persons tend to be absent-minded on occasion)…and thus they all know and understand the overall harm to both UK and World stability and security that ‘false flag’ operations, i.e. supposedly ‘clever’ conspiracies, can all too easily cause, by causing a chain of events that not only would wreck the UK economy, but would risk such a chain of events that would force the world into a final cataclysmic showdown! The agenda of virtually all British government agencies, agents, operatives, officials and officers is to reduce the level of instability in the world and to maintain sufficient security!
4. If there has been any conspiracy with regards to what happened in London on July 7, 2005 then it is much more likely to have been orchestrated by either remnant Nazis who operate out of South American Nazi enclaves and who have infiltrated many governments and agencies or fanatic Iranian operatives! And they would only be able to abet, indirectly, those young men who were already willing, able, planning and preparing to do what THEY DID! In any case; the actual acts were done by those brainwashed youths, even if some sinister anti-British, anti-American, anti-European, anti-EU, anti-UN, anti-Liberal, anti-Democratic Fascists in some way managed to facilitate things for them!!! But Mr. John Hill does not have the intelligence to see that that kind of a conspiracy makes more sense than his more likely obvious effort to harm the UK government and the British public! Oh, but, he and others may yet argue; ‘what if it was the US government under Cheney, with the help of Israel, that did it?’ First of all, believe or not, Israel’s actual ruling elite and their government know that it would be a fatal mistake for them to in any way ever be involved in any such a conspiracy to set the rest of the world against the Islamic World! Israel may sometimes exploit, out of survival necessity only, the weaknesses their enemies and conflicts between their enemies, but Israel also understands that there is no substitute for a comprehensive, viable, lasting peace, which must ultimately also involve territorial compromise with the Palestinians and the establishment of a Palestinian State! Israel is a lot less negative and a lot more positive an entity than many in the world today tend to believe, but over-simplistic superficial observations based on both mass-media hype and actual occasional violations of IDF codes of conduct fuel all kinds of senseless garbage about Israel and its overall motives! Of course, there are extremists in Israel who do plenty of harm to their own countries interests, but overall the majority of Israelis are quite different than what organized anti-Semitic groups want the public to think! As for the US; sure, there might have been a few Remnant Nazis who have infiltrated agencies and done things that actually harm overall US interests, including the unlikely possibility that those sick youths were given indirect assistance! But you can be sure that the vast majority of US officials, agents and operatives are not one bit even like the political opportunists (such as Rumsfeld, Cheney and others during the previous administration) who almost entirely wrecked the US!

So, as far I am concerned 7-7 happened more or less as the UK government states it did, and there is no sensible reason to think otherwise!

As for 9-11; that was truly more of a case where the Bush administration was complicit in having a ‘bring it on’, ‘go ahead, hit us, and see what happens’ attitude! No doubt about it; plenty of actual evidence exists that shows that the top people in Bush’s administration understood that sick bin Laden and Company were about to do something really terrible, but they were itching for an excuse, a ‘Casus Belli’, to launch their series of almost endless wars and conflicts against both real terrorists and anyone else who might endanger their selfish interests and sick agenda! But even 9-11 was perpetrated by those brainwashed pseudo-Muslims and all those wacko conspiracy theories are mostly based on insensible, highly improbable and even impossible things. Sure, there may have been a rogue group that infiltrated a significant US government agency and managed to conspire to help make 9-11 the horror it was, but I have no doubt that even those Neo-Cons at the top of the Bush Administration were in the dark and could not have known what was really, really happening! 9-11 was probably the result of a very clever collusion of sinister forces, including bin Laden & Company (i.e. al Qaeda) and possibly a rogue group created and operated by actual Remnant Nazis trying to destroy all democracies on Earth!!! Thus, it is no wonder that there were many odd, suspicious and sinister details about what happened on 9-11 and in the months and years leading up to that! And no doubt there were even some things that happened concerning Tower 7 that were meant to give people the impression that the Neo-Cons were behind the whole shebang! As far as I can tell the Neo-Cons of the Bush administration were all too happy to exploit the horrors of 9-11, but they were not clever or intelligent enough to have pulled-off the whole thing by themselves, and given what has happened since it is more likely that they too were played-with and duped, even as they would still deny it! It was definitely not the vast majority of US agents and operatives, or the Israelis at all; because both the actual ability to do such a massive crime and the excessive risks involved preclude such a possibility and in fact make it impossible! No, 9-11 was perpetrated by bin Laden & Company, with or without the help of some sinister rogue Remnant-Nazi forces! Yes, there might have been some things done concerning Tower 7 that were done simply because the opportunity to do them arose that September morning, but not so with regards to the Twin Towers (1&2). Knowing all that I know about the real world of intelligence operatives and agents I can, without a doubt, assure you that neither 9-11 nor 7-7 were what the vast majority of Conspiracy Theorists out there claim they were. The world is full of opportunists, both those who are willing to conspire and those who inadvertently or intentionally exploit actual conspiracies in order to convince people of conspiracy theories that make no sense at all! Whether Mr. John Hill meant to cause harm or not; his insensible nonsense, his stupid conspiracy theory has done nothing to shed any light on the actual truth, but, instead, has caused serious harm to the actual peaceful interests of the British government and UK officials, by providing more fuel to a fire based on ignorance, extremism and false interpretations of Islam! In other words: this is not about the UK wanting to silence those whose conspiracy theories actually are based on real evidence, actual events, actual facts and sensible ideas; it is about a man named John Hill who thinks he’s real smart and knows what’s really going on behind the scenes when he doesn’t and who uses half-truths and insensible fabrications to concoct a dangerous set of lies that form an even bigger lie! 7-7 was done by brainwashed youths, who cowardly and unjustifiably murdered dozens of innocent people of all types, and whose agenda is based on a totally false interpretation of Islam; a religion, like most others, whose real essence is peaceful!

I am interested in your feedback.

4 comments:

Red Pill Junkie said...

"[T]his is not about the UK wanting to silence those whose conspiracy theories actually are based on real evidence, actual events, actual facts and sensible ideas; it is about a man named John Hill who thinks he’s real smart and knows what’s really going on behind the scenes when he doesn’t and who uses half-truths and insensible fabrications to concoct a dangerous set of lies that form an even bigger lie! 7-7 was done by brainwashed youths, who cowardly and unjustifiably murdered dozens of innocent people of all types, and whose agenda is based on a totally false interpretation of Islam; a religion, like most others, whose real essence is peaceful!"

But do you think that he deserves to go to jail because of this? Because if that is so, why hasn't anyone put David Icke behind bars? I mean, that guy is accusing the British royal family of being shape-shifting baby-eating reptilian aliens!

The Original New York City Free Advice Man said...

John Hill's conspiracy theory is not like that of David Icke. David Icke is not likely to be taken credibly by anyone who would commit illegal acts of violence against innocent people, because of all his Reptile BS and other nonsensical garbage. Hill specifically alleges that UK government officials conspired to murder innocent people; which, to my way of thinking, is both absurd and very, very dangerous incitement! Icke's style is different; he deliberately inserts ridiculous nonsense and what not! Icke is always clever in how he manipulates his words and language to avoid legal problems. Hill does not, and there is a huge difference between saying something that is truly ridiculous and something that masks as fact and even sounds credible to those who are not going to take the time to do their own homework, research and critical thinking!

Anonymous said...

7/7 was an intel op as was 9/11. American, Israeli and British Satan (read Jehovah,Yahweh,or Allah) worshippers start wars to appease their WAR GOD.
Lacking this knowledge, none of you are fit to comment on these dastardly acts! You are all brainwashed to commit murder by worshipping this god and the more religious you are, the more likely you are to commit murder. One of the finest examples of this is the US Pentagon, where Donald Rumsfeld would use quotes from scripture on his top secret intelligence briefings.

http://men.style.com/gq/features/topsecret

http://blog.au.org/2009/05/18/holy-war-in-iraq-rumsfeld-intelligence-briefings-quoted-scripture/

the US Government killed 3000 of its bravest and brightest citizens to get public approval to kill millions more in countries where they pledge allegiance to the same WAR GOD!

Christ himself called out the evil adversary of Humanity, The God of Abraham.

John 8:44 Jesus to the Jews: "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

pounce_uk said...

Well I watched the bBC program on this subject and it completely debunks it.
The demolition Van next to the bus that was blown up was indeed a van belonging to a demolition company problem is they don’t use explosives but rather use pressure and diamond tips in which to crush concrete and not explosives. Any teen detective could have found that out.
The so called explosives expert who left that bus before it blew up. (What is this overkill?) was actually an electrician who had worked at an explosives factory and the reason he had got off the bus. He needed to get to Angel (A place) and the bus had been redirected away so he got off at the first chance.
That so called expert who was holding a disaster exercise. Well yes but it was entirely a classroom exercise for 6 people belonging to a publishing company.
As for that Phantom train. What the video doesn’t tell you is the idiots arrived at Luton 27 minutes early.
As for return tickets, well how about in the Uk it is cheaper to purchase a return ticket than a single on.
I don’t know if the BBC Iplayer works outside the Uk but here is the link for the program;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00lkp01/The_Conspiracy_Files_Series_2_7_7/