The following is a comment made by one Joss Lloyd at The Liberal Democrats facebook site's most recent statement on the Gaza Aid Flotilla incident:
(Words of Joss Lloyd): "All you Pro Israeli activists on here seem to have no desire to try and see things from the palestinians point of view. The fact is, Muslims had been living in the Holy Land for over 2000 years, and then suddenly Britain and America start supporting another group of people, (who happen to be jewish) , with weapons and tanks, to invade their country, palestine. burning arab settlements, killing and raping the moslems, and eventually forcing all who survived into a tiny strip of land on the coast and THEN stopping any kind of humanintarian aid getting in. And you wonder why the palestinians hate the Americans, and are not too keen on the Israelis either. If I was a palestinian, i would probably want to blow up something american."
TO WHICH I WROTE: @Joss Lloyd "Muslims have been living in the Holy Land for over 2000 years" ????? Why do people make comments on important issues they OBVIOUSLY know NOTHING about! Islam came into existence (The Prophet Muhammad) almost 600 years AFTER Christianity! It began in the Arab Peninsula, out of Medina/Mecca, at which time the lands called Canaan and Philistia (what was and is Israel and Judea/Samaria) were mostly inhabited by non-Arabs! In fact; until the Islamic Conquest it was the Romans who had DISPLACED, MASSACRED, ENSLAVED the Jews of Canaan/Israel/Judea/Samaria, had brutalized them and forced them into exile! Those Jews were part-Sumerian who became part-Canaanite and part-Egyptian (all Semitic peoples). Before the arrival of Abraham and his fellow tribes-folk the Canaanites were the inhabitants..they were not ARABS! And IN FACT it was the Canaanites who had MASSACRED virtually all of the Philistini! The REAL, ORIGINAL Palestinians! The Philistini were a coastal people whose origins seem to be similar to the Cretans and Phoenicians. The noun Palestinian comes from Philistini; and the current people of Gaza and the West Bank are actually just as much a mish-mash mix of Arab, Egyptian, Greek, Syrian and other peoples! During the Crusades Muslims and Jews were massacred by so-called Christians! While average Muslims tended to be friendly towards their Jewish minority neighbours; their leaders treated that minority of local (original) Jews and Christians as second-class citizens, often subject to greater burdens in the form of penalty taxes (for not converting to Islam), and as scape-goats during hard times! The Jews historic presence in Canaan and Philistia goes back over 3000 years..twice as long as that of Muslims! And 1/3 longer than Christians! Your analogy is incorrect! Suppose the Native American Indians had mostly been massacred and forced into exile throughout the world and had, during that time, inter-married with all the other peoples of Earth and then decided to return to the last place where they had lived for the longest time as a mostly-sovereign people? How was Great Britain and The United States (as well as the rest of the UN Security Council) wrong in seeking to return the Jewish people to their historic lands?? About 1.5 Billion people, roughly 1/5 of the World's total population, are Muslims! Of which around 320 Million are Middle-Eastern and North-African Arab Muslims! The total land-mass that the Arab Muslims inhabit and politically control is hundreds of times that of Israel! If the Jewish peoples were to get a FAIR share of land in the region...as divided by population...then they should get almost twice the land that they have now! But all Jews in Israel seek is a place to live relatively free and safe from anti-Semitic hatred that still plagues much of the rest of the world!
Here is a web-site that shows the Physical Land-Dispute REALITY even though I do not agree with the specific language and attitude of those who made it:
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
MIND YOU: while I very much disagree with some of the specific wordingm the anti-Arab rhetoric (the level of hostility towards Israel fluctuates and is sometimes less than what the mass media makes it appear) and attitude (while the “Palestinians” are actually more Arab than not and are not the ancient Philistini people massacred by the pre-Jewish Canaanites; they too are as much victims of this horrific on-going tragedy as most Israelis and Jews are) of the pro-Israel group that created the above comparative web-site the statistics they provide are very accurate and those statistics very clearly show how totally UNFAIR the World is in mis-representing the Israelis as the expansionists and occupiers! Sure: the current government of Israel is not conducive enough towards reaching a peaceful settlement, but nor is the Palestinian leadership. Roughly 60% of people on both sides want PEACE yesterday! But the world’s profiteers like to profit off the conflict; as it forces all players to arm themselves to the teeth!
TIME TO STOP THE LIES, THE HATE and THE INJUSTICE! TIME FOR A TWO-STATES PEACE AGREEMENT! ENOUGH OF HAMAS, ANTI-SEMITIC HYPOCRITES and REACTIONARY ISRAELI ULTRA-NATIONALISTS! THE MAJORITY OF ISRAELI JEWS and PALESTINIAN MUSLIMS WANT PEACE IMMEDIATLY!
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ADDENDUM: As for Joss Lloyd's sick anti-Americanism: Joss also needs to be taught a little USA History too! As much as I love the best of English high culture I detest blatant anti-Americanism, especially given King George's brutality! Down with King George Hooray for King Charles The Second!
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